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pire
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Posted on 03-12-11 11:51
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Bijaya Kumar is someone I like. But then like all men, he also has a side that I really dislike. To have a glimpse of Bijaya Kumar's pathetic side, it is enough to read the following sentences in the following article:
"राजनीतिक प्राणी कृष्णप्रसाद भट्टराई र आध्यात्मिक साधक किसुनजीका बीचमा हमेसा एक प्रकारको द्वन्द्व रह्यो, तनाव रह्यो, जीवनभर । एउटा संवेनशील मानिसको चेतनाको अत्यन्तै गहिरो तहमा भएको यो 'तनाव वा द्वन्द्व' को तुलना हामीले सामान्यतया बुझ्न, 'तनाव वा द्वन्द्व' शब्दसँग गर्न सकिँदैन । प्रदीप गिरिजीसँग मैले यसै विषयमा, बितेका वर्षमा घन्टौं कुराकानी गरेको छु ।"
Ah, it is about him. It is often about him. What is the relationship between Kishun Jee and " प्रदीप गिरिजीसँग मैले यसै विषयमा, बितेका वर्षमा घन्टौं कुराकानी गरेको छु ।" Who cares what he talks about Pradip Giriji? Bijaya Kumar has to insert himself.
Here is a classic Bijaya Kumar:
"परम्परागत संसदीय प्रणालीका गुणदोषका विषयमा मलाई कसैको उपदेश आवश्यक छैन । राजनीतिशास्त्रका विख्यात प्राध्यापक स्वर्गीय लियो रोजको विद्यार्थी हुँ म ।"
Nobody should write something like that. Btw, does he have a degree in political science? Or was he a short term visitor? Just because he was a student of a dead professor, he should not say something like "I know everything and no one can teach me anything". This statement is very sickening.
For his article, see
http://www.ekantipur.com/np/2067/11/28/full-story/326296.html
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Posted on 03-12-11 9:21
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1. When Bijay Kumar used to run a programme in NTV in his initial days his twang used to be criticised by most. Later his style of narrating became popular and TV journalists even started to copy this in their presentation.
2. I liked his series titled ' Mero Jindagi, Mero Biswas'.
The above are my 2 opinions abour Mr. Pandey.
अस्तु
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Posted on 03-12-11 9:44
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Pire,
What is purpose of your thread? To let us know, what you do not agree in BK's writing ? Well if that is it ... We or say I dont f#$king care what you think.
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Posted on 03-12-11 10:07
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8848m
Oh , then why are you reading my post and responding to it?
Geology Tiger,
What's your point again? You go round and round, call me sarbagyani, but tell me one thing what is it in my first post that you didn't agree with? I pointed two statements and can you tell me what spurred you to write this long meaningless bullshit and personal attack?
newstudent and dbst,
Thanks. You definitely understood my point.
To others, I didn't judge Bijaya Kumar's overall journalism, neither did I rank him among our journalists. I showed exactly where the article drifts away from being about KPB and being about himself.
And the only reason why I commented about Bijaya Kumar's article is because he is among the best journalists in Nepal. Tons of other garbages are there about which I don't bother to comment.
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Posted on 03-12-11 10:12
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Posted on 03-12-11 10:28
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You're a tool, complete idiot.. Stupid f u Ck ... Say whatever you wanna say below on the commet box
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Geology Tiger
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Posted on 03-12-11 11:01
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Pire says,
"In any case, It is not my fault if you guys don't see the point raised in my postings."
And Pire, it applies to you as well. I wrote an illustrative passage to make you understand my points but looks like it made you go round and round. But I am not going to say that's your fault; instead, I apologize for it.
FYI your first posting didn't make me to come up with that illustrative passage, it was your second posting.
In simple words the disagreement I had on your statements in the first posting is I don't think Bijayakumar's writing deserve the word 'pathetic' simply because he wrote about his professor in it.
Again it was not personal attack, I was just trying to make you understand my points. I appreciate that you are one of the talented person we have here in Sajha. But sometimes, you just try to prove yourself extra talented, little more than Bijayakumar.
If you still don't get my points I'll try later to make it clear. But for now I have to take break from this thread.
Thanks,
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Posted on 03-12-11 11:40
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Geology Tiger,
To be honest, I think you were wrong but you are unwilling to admit it. Pire even started his first posting by saying that he liked Bijaya Kumar. I mean that was his first statement. Then he went on to say that he was offended by two statements. I think he is right on money on both those.
I can understand people like Pichas being mean, but I thought you were one of the sane guys around. Just admit your mistake and let sanity prevail, man. And you did mention Dhamala as an illustrative analogy. And you asked him to write email to Bijaya Kumar and so on, which didn't make sense to me either.
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Posted on 03-12-11 11:58
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I was not being mean ; you're just busy kissing pires ass ... Keep kissing You sane mofo... Now I see u trying to kiss gt's ass..
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Posted on 03-13-11 12:04
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Hey Pichas,
With your kind of attitude, you look like a 40-years old virgin , angry with the whole world for no apparent reason. You remind me the kind of people whose mother go from relation to relation, and try to hide information about their kid just to get a man for bodily warmth. You should just calm down and try to be friendly with the world around you. The world is not as bad as you think, as$hole.
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Posted on 03-13-11 12:12
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Posted on 03-13-11 12:43
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Sab brahman haru ko khel ho
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Posted on 03-13-11 3:52
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Ultimate conclusion of this thread:
Nagrikreport hates brahmin
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Posted on 03-13-11 3:58
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यो साझा मा कस्ता कस्ता जनावर आउन थाले ..
एउटा पिचास ..
साँघुरो विचार बुझेर खुबै फराकिलोजरि बुझेजस्टो गरि अरुसंग पिचासीनु पर्ने ...हरेक कुरा मा देख्छु पिचास्याछ पिचास्याछ ! येस्तो संसार को बोझ ,केइ नबुझ्ने पिचास लाइ मान्छे संग किन निउ खोज्नु पर्ने ?पिचास ले मान्छे खान र तर्साउन मात्र जान्दछ ,तर मान्छे पिचासहरु संग हारेर पनी जीत के र कसको हो भनेर बुझेको हुन्छ ...साझा मा आयो ..जुन बिसय मा नि प्याच्च घिनलाग्दो जरी बोल्यो ...
अर्को फेरी पिरे ..
आँफु ले एक डोको खुर्सानी घिचेर रातो न पिरो भाछ..
थाम्न नसकी तो सडेको खुर्सानीको बेथा हामीलाई फाल्न खोज्छ ..
अर्को आयो फेरी नयाबिधार्थी ..
नया बिधार्थी लाइ केइ पनि थाहा छैन ..पैला पुरानो हुने अनि छलफल गर्ने !माओबादी को समर्थन गरे जस्तै हो
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Posted on 03-13-11 8:17
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sometimes, you just try to prove yourself extra talented, little more than Bijayakumar - GT I Hope pire was not running for the same scholarship that led BK to Berkerly and the fame that he possess now :)
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pire
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Posted on 03-13-11 2:08
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Geology Tiger wrote:
" I am not going to say that's your fault; instead, I apologize for it."
Apology accepted, GT. Thanks.
To others, what can I say. People understand according to their own ability. I have written everything pretty clearly. I disagree with people dropping names (Like Leo Rose stuff above), and I particularly, dislike when people insert non sequitirs in their articles (like the Pradip Giri episode in BK's writing). There comes a time when people should be mature, and try to convince others using their own argument, rather than using their association.
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Posted on 03-13-11 3:15
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I just saw this topic..interesting. Interesting in one regard, I have always had mixed feelings about Bijay Kumar. Like kishunji, Bijay Kumar's personal ego and his journalism are contradictory and often comes together and jeopardizes his image. He does it every now and then. Bringing up his personal experience in such a way that it over shadows his excillence in true social journalism. To be honest I haven't read the complete story. However, it is not terrible of him to bring his acheivements/ links to this article. The core of the article " direct election of the national leader or President of the state" is one of the utmost importance in nepali politics. The democracy we have dreampt of for nepal neither similarizes with the biggest democracy of the world, India, nor with the "true democracy" of america. " Constituent assembly" is in a verge of the establishing itself as one of the biggest mistake in nepali politics. You might ponder why? We had enough of corrupts leader. We just added some more by constituent assembly. When we are mentally prepared for independent states and provinces, it should be backed by direct election of the president.
What wrong did Bijay Kumar do by linking his acheivements/ experience?
- Bijay kumar is a journalist of NEPAL, so, no doubt he is like all Nepali. He is the one who started ' hardline journalism'. Asking direct questions with unbiased agendas. It brought him some penultimate critisism and we started seeing a rather softer Bijay kumar. Life is a learning process and so did he. BUT, unlike many journalist who jumped to a flag, became press advisors and even the information ministers, Bijay never TRIED to acheive anything but a bigger public image from what he had already established. You might say he didn't get it because of his "pachyderm". This is not true as he has mentioned about "offers" many times in his articles. His views are out of the frustations like many of us. It's a simple tone " you don't need to teach me". How did he wrong?
Why do we need a "direct election"?
- From past few days, I have been watching headlines " hetauda industrial estate is closed due to threat by salikram fraction of Maoist labour association" and the cause " THEIR INTERNAL DISPUTE". Today i read another headline " Baburam was forcefully deplaced by another vice chairman Narayankaji in a district committee inaguration program under the influence of Chairman Prachanda. Where the hell in the world you vandalize neighbors house when you had fight with your wife? Moreover, were those 17,000 dead because Prachanda/ Narayankaji/Baburam or whoever would be president or prime minister?
This is just an example, we have seen plenty of internal politics in other parties too. You have a right to say ' it's obvious in politics'.
No my friend, we need to stop it to bring a stable government. We need a direct election to put somebody in that chair who we like, majority of nepali like. If nepal wants Baburam, we need to have system which would bring him in our Leadership. For years we have been forced to accept the leadership. It should be over. It should be over for a stable goverment and sovereign nation. If we build capacity to elect who heads us, no one, not even india or america can topple our government. Stable government (2047 to 2051) had given us some glimpse of goverment. Foundation of current information and technologies achievment were built then. Our politics and national structure started shaking after 2051 and in it's worst now. There should be some punishing side in the politics too and I believe direct election would give us that opportunity.
PS: thanks GT. You made me read this discussion. How'z life? Pire, take it easy bro. All of us are equally worried about our mother nation.
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Posted on 03-13-11 3:19
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it should be some glimpse of developments"
Thank you!"
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Posted on 03-13-11 3:25
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पिरेका कुरा खुब मन पर्थे अरु बेला, यतिबेला के भो क भो खै|
नेपालमा हरेक बिधामा हेर्ने भने, जो सुकैले पनि फलाना (फलानाचाहीं ठूलाबडा है, यो प्रसंगमा) संग म उठ बस गरेको हो भनेर भनेकै हुन्छन| बिजय कुमारले पनि तेही घुसाई दियो, के गर्ने?
मैले फलानो संग एती घण्टा कुरा गरेको छु, बसेको छु, उठेको छु, जांड पिएको छु, भनेर नै credibility पुस्टी गरिन्छ, तेस्तै चलन छ, विजय कुमार पाण्डेले तेही गर्यो होला!!
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Posted on 03-13-11 3:33
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Great Analysis N.s. Even though i have been reading this thread but didn't feel like writing anything because if i would have than that would be my own judgement and somebody would have pop up saying that i am kissing somebody's a$$ which you've seen in sajha from long time. But without being biased i am commenting in your analysis if anybody post anything against me. Super likes :-)
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Posted on 03-13-11 7:47
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this post is against BD, just to get superlikes ;)
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