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ImI
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Posted on 07-07-06 6:45
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I am just dissatisfied with how SPA is kissing Maoist Ass.I is not against the peace process but it should be having done without being dominated by Maoist. 1. CA is the bargain Chip: As much as you think that Maoist are going to go back to jungle by now you should realize that moist are tired .The leaders are already hungry for power. At least I can say you that the stalemate would not end before Pachanda dies .So why the Fuc% he did all this for. So, now if they can threaten to do whatever they like we can threaten them with No CA.It is just game. As much as you think Nepalese people want CA they don’t want Maoist with guns before that.So, now that the political parties are safe and have curtailed the king’s power they should not kiss Maoists Ass. US, India and NA is with democratic forces and king so. Maoist cannot do whatever they want at least cannot fulfill their dream. 2. What if they do go back to the jungle: Well that good .they should go back to jungle that is where they belong. Blood will be spilled this time .I am ready to spill 10% of the blood of 14000 that is 1400 leaders of Maoists should be executed. If you think India cooperates, we need CIA intelligence. The leaders like Parchanda and baburam can be killed the tomorrow. 3. Divide and rule: As every party there are leaders who want to go above Pachanda and baburam.Money talks in every language. Divide the army/rebels. Now you ask me why they could not do these all these years because SPA, king always thought they can win by force. There are other ways too. Offer money to rebels...who lay their arms or give info...force is just one of the solution but not all .The money can be amount upto lakhs...it is still cheaper than to compensating one dead police. Offer education, food to rebels who come back to mainsteam.Show the Govt.cares in those villages. When u gets such kind of assurance from govt.the enthusiasm among the fighters fades away. Saam , daam ,danda and Ved ... Till now it has been seen to break maoist insurgency govt using danda.the second force daam is most vital one in today’s world .you can buy anyone . Road to peace: This will be biggest mistake for NC and UML to shake hands with the Maoist without disarming. If they don’t want to .then they cannot participate in the Govt.Trust me it will take them a while to go back. And morally also they won’t have that much support from their own cadres. Until and unless they disarm .they cannot / should not be govt.This is my view but we know how much smart SPA leaders are so. Those jack asses are going to be kicked in their butt. There can only one communist party survive either UML or mao...Uml has not recognized that.NC is the biggest opponent of commies.So, simple if NC do not unite with right wings and among themselves they will see their future doomed. 1. Disarm Maoist 2. Refrendum in fair election whether to keep King or not each individual can vote yes or no …no representative democracy here. Every vote counts... 3. as well as social issues – Hindu country or not should be part of ballet. 4. Role of the king would be decided by the representative elected from the CA.and just the role. 5. after CA... Draft new constitution. 6. Maoist guerillas should not be assimilated in nation army however they wish to join army they can from free competition. 7. The Maoist guerillas would be offered jobs as much possible in the industries. Not in army. NO. 8. Go for HOR election...every party can represent as before including maoist.No discrimination against maoist there. 9. Every thing should be under the new consititution.and Supreme Court should cross check the constitution.
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memyselfandnepal
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Posted on 07-07-06 7:41
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IMI, good thoughts. You took care of Maoists, what about taking care of corrupt politicians with conspired with the terrorists and unleashed terrorists on the streets for 19 days and because of whom 21 terrorists were shot dead by RNA and RNP. Who is going to be accountable for all the corruption and terrorism unleashed by SPA?
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Thaha_Panyen
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Posted on 07-07-06 9:37
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IMI, You were talking about some different roadmap to peace, from a royalist perspective which would take us to the peace without any more cost of lives of Army, Police, and people. But, I think your roadmap is not different from mine, SPA's and people's roadmap. Only on the first point that you have outlined, people like you, an ultra-royalist, and me, pro-democrat are divided. Since king is virtually still powerful, politicians and most people doubt that the king will sincerely walk on SPA's roadmap though he agreed through his announcement which ended the Janaandolan II. Let me put it more clearly: Girija knows that the king will not obey the peoples mandate issued from CA if it comes out against monarchy. This is the reason why he was talking about giving the king ceremonial role so that the king becomes quite and recent limited developments of empowing people could be secured without any problem and also those such as restructing the state through CA can be implemented. But, Maoists do not want to do that beforehand , since it was their main agenda during their fight against the state. They have been demanding that the king's fate be decided by CA election. Other parties were/are always agendaless (though they sometimes bark) and they can be bought by the king or the Maoists at any time using 'Sam and Dam' as you mentioned above. Whole world know that Nepalese people can not and should not believe the king because of the current army generals under him (Perbez Musaraf le ta bidroha garyo bhane Gyanendra ko ta Army/Police heads nai aafnai Sala/Jehtan/Bhatija chhan), his nature and his past ("tulutulu herera basne Raja ma hoina" bhanne manchhe na ho). So the whole point is that King will certainly defy the mandate from CA election if he is not given the role in the future constitution. In this case the only way to stop such thing from happening is to let Moaists keep their arms with themselves (not surrendering the arms, or not disarming their Army) so that the King would not dare to do that. Do you think that SPA, who could not even dare to sack the 'Chief of Army Staff' even when high level commission found him culprit, would dare to curb the king's power through House Proclaimation if maoists would have already surrendered their arms from the very first day of SPA's government? Of course, not. So, Maoists should not be disarmed at this point at least until the issueance of new constitution. So, what is the meeting point then? Supervise Maoists army's activities from now onwards until the new constitution is drafted by CA representatives and all sides including monarchy agrees to obey the mandate whatever comes, and issued the new constitution making sure that none of the sides influence the election through their armed activities. I know you and some others including Paras or his bhadaa ka tattus like memyselfandnepal will come and vomit here within few minutes. But, this is only the feasible solution and can ensure the future of peaceful Nepal.
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Posted on 07-07-06 9:52
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great. so what is that we as an individual can do, beside just yapping, lets talk about that.
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memyselfandnepal
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Posted on 07-07-06 9:58
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LOL....there we go...SPA terrorists called me and here I am (although their information level regarding me is too low...they are hotel waiters and I own several hotels)...difference...just the differenece... (and oh oh someone will start taking me as King Gyanendra itself now)...haha the SPAMmer terrorists are too scared of the ghosts of Royalists (like me) and Nationalists... Anyway, so the SPA terrorists will not give up arms because RNA will not let the SPA and M loot away the country...Cry babies....Get set kicked. Too bad, the terrorists won't actually be getting anything more. Come the monsoon ends, come the fun begins. P.S.: Quickly reveal the identities of yourself terrorists and the quicker we will take care of you...santosh giri, sharmendra bhagat, just a few are in the open for the moment...the third one is there ...right there in US...and we will get him...
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ImI
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Posted on 07-07-06 9:59
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Dude , sorry i didn't really feel like reading u r post .first couple of sentences pissed me off!!!!!!!!you seriously pissed me off .It doesn't matter to you are me but just so that you know.Anyways, i read.:) You wanted it so i gave it .Now you go on blaming whatever you want to and call your self pro democratic and me royalist.i don't really care . you should know by now what i hate. No we do not have same road map .If we had we would not be deciding to join maoist into govt. after 1 month and we won't be having entirim consitution what for??? And i said what if , they go back to jungle .then you start killing leaders.Not militias..Sleek method . pick and choose method.Wipe out top leaders. The question if some tribes some groups picks up arms ..Then we bow down infront of them??what if there is Kirat liberation army ?what if there is madesi liberation army?? King is vitually powerful??you think so.hahhaa. virtually powerful..I guess i think so too now. your logic :enemy of my enemy is my fren.. hahahah.. what if that backfires..do you know how many uml and NC leaders have been killed by same guns that maoist carry.Either ,you are maoist(just like you accused me of being royalist) or thinking too much that hurts your brain.Let them keep the gun and you will see the Red Nepal.You have the fear kings takes over i have fear maoist takes over.It depends on individual softcorner.King is not as dictator as maoist would be.King was not a smart politician thats all .he is was too dumb to understand politics. See Let me tell you about Nepali Rajniti and the characters in the game.. They are all the same...give yourself satisfaction by saying this is good and this is bad.At the end of the day .. they are same.. And i did not expect you keep going on ..ok i thought we are going to have good dicussion but you turned out to be maoist!!!!!!hahahah.. call me whatever you like .now i know you very well.you started you sentence by accusing me and you ended you sentence again by accusing me.you are super intelligent ..no respect for your views anymore..at least from me
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antiking
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Posted on 07-07-06 10:35
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IMI is a gay... are u amrit joishi?;)
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AznshawtY
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Posted on 07-07-06 10:39
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imi isnt gay, i think he's nice, sweety!
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rudra prasad upadhya
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Posted on 07-07-06 10:43
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antiking, amrit joshi is the guy who used to post as bineet, who is now posting as memyselfandnepal. He has some other aliases as well, like jay hindu. He recently made a death-threat against a guy using a very different alias, and then posted a follow up message, using the moniker, memyselfandnepal, like that would get us off his trail. I'm telling you all, this guy *has to be banned*. It's one thing to make a post once in a while using a different alias, but the guy who's so anti-SPAM, is the biggest spammer on this website. He is totally messing up this board. What a moron. The guy has to be banned.
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Thaha_Panyen
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Posted on 07-07-06 10:50
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ha ha, i knew you will all vomit here. I see King the only obstacle to the road to the permament peace and development, not moaists. Because, Maoists can't take over Nepal because they never can do that. Internationals comminities and home situation certainly do not favor them-- never support their governments if maoist tilts towards communist autocracy. Maoists know it so they are clever enough to avoid another revolt against them. If they do, they Nepal will be free from the king (this time, the monarchy will be swept away) and the maoists (next revolt will speep away maoists) forever. I think so because: I met many ordinary people and some cardes from different political parties during my visit to Nepal last year and als also following the recent developments in Nepal and people feelings towards it critically. I found that people are as they were before: they have almost no symphaty towards maoists, no convertion to maoists. The thing is that they were furious towards the king and the then royal absolute regime. Since they were already fed up with political parties and most corrupt 205 so-called parliamentarians, they had no option left other than supporting all parties movement against king. Unfortunately, some royalists understood that Maoists are gaining support from people and will do whatever they like to do after CA election ("red state" re!!) Rest assure that millions of Nepalese like me are supporting current peace process, in which Maoists are a part, not because they are Maoists, but because the roadmap shed some hope on them for the permanent peace. In fact, they are compelled to do this since your royalist roadmap of maintaining peace withing 3 years by putting the people in a dark (curbing the peoples basic rights, banning the news on the internet and FM stations, imposing so called "Sanchar Adhyadhesh" against journalists) already failed. Hey, all conspirators against democracy, you will also have opportunity in Democratic Republic Nepal, so shut up for some time and see how it goes. P.S.: Laa, malai pani maoists ko suchi ma rakhechhan some royalists le. Maoists le pani pattyaidiye ta gazab hunthyo ni, mora haru le president banai dinthe ki malai in future "Democratic Republic of Nepal" ma!!! ahha..............
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antiking
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Posted on 07-07-06 10:52
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well I killed this guy called AMRIT JOSHI by posting a thread called "AMRIT JOSHI is a GAY" and from that day i never saw this name.. so I will do something to kill this man from SAJHA he is a SAJHA terrorist,,, disLIKED
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ImI
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Posted on 07-07-06 11:07
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jack asses can't you read my post.show me one word against SPA.beside critizing SPA negligence i am trying to save SPA's ass.You moron Antiking.. you will always be antiking i really don't have problem with that But calling other people gay.. .Is that the best you can do with your knowledge..I am I ..i have no aliases and ban be from the SAJAH if you can!!!! I have always ..been nice to others..except people who have terrorist view.Then again i don't hate them..Unlike some dumbs of sajha..who know only one thing their master ..have taught them how to curse anybody who speaks against thier master.idiots!!!!
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ImI
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Posted on 07-07-06 11:11
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And Thaha payen.. i am not vomitting.. sorry dude ..i said i am not going to resond or reply you anymore.u just lost all the respect.
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ImI
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Posted on 07-07-06 11:20
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I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND ONE THING .WHAT THE FUC% I SAID AGAINST SPA THAT SPA DOGS ARE TRYING TO BITE MY ASS.???? I WAS JUST TRYING TO TAKE DOGS ALONG WITH BULLS. I DON'T SEE ANY REASON FOR ANY BODY WHO BELIEVES IN DEMOCRACY BE OFFENDED BY ME. EXCEPT THE TERRORISTS.. WHO BELIVES THEY CAN CONTROL EVERYTHING WITH GUN POWER!!!!
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Posted on 07-07-06 11:28
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As far as I feel, IMI not the same memyselfandnepal, JaiHindu, Amrit Joshi and what else. IMI sometimes provides his views with logics and reasons (thought most of them are uselessjunk) and tells us that he is indifferent to recent chages, though he, without doubt, is an active supporter of monarchy which he hesitates to accept directly. I feel that he is the same SHIV during Janaandalon II (i might be wrong by 1% but SHIV is absent now a days and IMI completely represents that SHIV's feelings), who was one of the ultra-critics of the movement and its achievements. I don't see IMI a threat to democracy, but memyselfandnepal et al are always the conspirators and challange recent achievents openly. Nepal chhirna nadine re hamilai, what a joke?????? Current address bhannu paryo re uslai. If you have ball, go and do to those supporters of ongoing peace process who are already out there in Nepal. No one with sane mind speaks like that, really. Thanks, Thaha
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Thaha_Panyen
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Posted on 07-07-06 11:30
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thought most of them are uselessjunk... = though most of them are uselessjunk...
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ImI
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Posted on 07-07-06 11:46
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I DON'T NEED ANY BODY SAYING WHO I AM AND WHO I AM NOT.WHAT I BELEIVE IN AND WHAT I DO NOT. BAN ME FROM SAJAH IF YOU TERRORISTS CAN !!! I have one name :IMI and only one name i do not represent anybody's else's views Unlike some who claims to be political anyalst infact are jackals covered in sheep skin..Maoist covered in SPA skin.. Not true believer of democracy !!! Supports undemocratic elements and claimsto be democractic!!
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Posted on 07-07-06 11:47
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Posted on 07-07-06 11:55
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Yeah someone needs to shut up....always blaming each other...if one doesn't belive then labelled as maiost terrorist or royalist..everybody can put their view in politics but don't need to accept....if one don't acccept and differs the view then people start labelling and cursing.....
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ImI
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Posted on 07-08-06 12:09
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Exactly.. can you tell me who started in this thread.What did i say so wrong??some people think they are too smart.
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